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[1] Submitted by: Jeroen on Wednesday 1st September 2004 at 19:02 -0400

Testing the user notes

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5
[2] Submitted by: bubble on Thursday 2nd September 2004 at 17:41 -0400

Stylesheet based on the new mozilla.org scheme:

body {
background-color: #FFFFFF;
font-family: 'trebuchet ms', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
}

.table-main { background-color: #E4ECEC; }

.table-folder {
border-top: 1px solid #FFFFFF;
border-right: 1px solid #AAC3C3;
border-bottom: 1px solid #AAC3C3;
border-left: 1px solid #FFFFFF;
background-color: #C0DCDC;
}

.table-folder th {
border-top: 1px solid #FFFFFF;
border-right: 1px solid #AED48F;
border-bottom: 1px solid #AED48F;
border-left: 1px solid #FFFFFF;
background-color: #C4EFA1;
color: #1D9101;
font-size: .8em
}

a {
color: #6B5C78;
text-decoration: none;
font-size: .8em
}

a:hover {
text-decoration: none;
color: #000000;
}

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040902 Firefox/1.0 PR (NOT FINAL)
[3] Submitted by: bubble on Thursday 2nd September 2004 at 17:43 -0400

And thanks for this great extension BTW ;)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040902 Firefox/1.0 PR (NOT FINAL)
[4] Submitted by: Jeroen on Thursday 2nd September 2004 at 20:26 -0400

> Stylesheet based on the new mozilla.org scheme:

I liked your stylesheet a lot. I put it on a page which you can reach with the Styles link in the header

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5
[5] Submitted by: bubble on Friday 3rd September 2004 at 10:51 -0400

The only downside is that the search form is not focused on page load so you have to click the field before you can type...

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040902 Firefox/1.0 PR (NOT FINAL)
[6] Submitted by: Jeroen on Friday 3rd September 2004 at 13:44 -0400

> The only downside is that the search form is not focused

I'll change that. I'll probably also add some other search engines (see home). As for now, you can type 2 tabs to get into the search field.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5
[7] Submitted by: jschneible on Sunday 5th September 2004 at 23:41 -0400

This is precisely the extension I've been looking for. I would like more options, though. I really have no need of the google bar at the top, and I'd like to be able to set it to use only a certain folder in my bookmarks folder. Sage requires you to keep a folder of RSS feeds in your bookmarks and I'd rather not have them on my home page.

Thanks for the extension.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040803 Firefox/0.9.3
[8] Submitted by: Jeroen on Tuesday 7th September 2004 at 05:56 -0400

> I would like more options, though.

Just a little patience...(see todo)

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5
[9] Submitted by: Tombik on Saturday 11th September 2004 at 15:31 -0400

So nice, but with a button which cannot be removed by bookmark manager or mouse..it´s annoying

Tombik

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-DE; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040803 Firefox/0.9.3
[10] Submitted by: jean on Saturday 11th September 2004 at 18:16 -0400

nice extension!
I would like to see some improvements ;)

- larger fields in the options window - 'Exclude' right now shows just 4 links per time
- more 'useability', i.e. checking a bookmark will check its subfolders too, a 'mark all', a 'Include' counterpart

thanks

jean

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040803 Firefox/0.9.3
[11] Submitted by: Jeroen on Monday 13th September 2004 at 08:44 -0400

> So nice, but with a button which cannot be removed by bookmark manager or mouse..it´s annoying

If you do step 4 ([..]overlayinfo folder) of the uninstallation, the button will be removed. I'll think of something better for the next version.

> larger fields in the options window - 'Exclude' right now shows just 4 links per time
> more 'useability', i.e. checking a bookmark will check its subfolders too, a 'mark all', a 'Include' counterpart

I think most people won't use the exclude option, and if they do, it will only be occasionally. So trying to reduce the number of clicks doesn't seem worthwhile. Also, making the interface more complex, will make understanding it harder. And I've tried to keep the options window as small as possible, so that changes can also be seen without changing focus to the BMHome window. I assume that people will change the colors more often than their excluded folders and then it is convenient to have a small options window (which btw reminds me that I'd like to receive some more stylesheets!). However, if you disagree with me, I'd like to hear it.

Jeroen

ps
To all commentators: thanks for the thanks

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5
[12] Submitted by: Gary on Monday 13th September 2004 at 17:19 -0400

This looks like what I've been looking for, but it would not install correctly for me. FF.9.2 (perhaps the reason?). Shows in the extension list, can click open INFO, but OPTIONS is grayed out, and nothing stores in my chrome folder as mentioned. Any ideas what to look for?

Thx.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040707 Firefox/0.9.2
[13] Submitted by: Gary on Monday 13th September 2004 at 17:23 -0400

Uh...nevermind? Turns out the options via Extension dropdown isn't where you find options...they're at the bottom of the page. I have a full personal toolbar, so the BM Home button was off the screen to the right...never saw it until I cleaned out some of the stuff showing on the toolbar.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040707 Firefox/0.9.2
[14] Submitted by: Jean on Tuesday 14th September 2004 at 11:36 -0400

Hi Joeren

> won't use the exclude option, and if they do, it will only be occasionally

yes, same for the include option - in most cases it will be a one time
configuration ...
> So trying to reduce the number of clicks doesn't seem worthwhile

now, I'm using _large_ bookmarkfiles, collected over the years. It would be
nice to have some parts of it as a homepage, but not all the bookmarks (probably
it would crash the browser ;) and it wouldn't be very concise). So for me that
means to exclude several dozen of entries, while only a few folders were included
(and that is a pain with the small box;) )

> Also, making the interface more complex, will make understanding it harder

now, a single additional button wouldn't clutter the interface, or?


> I assume that people will change the colors more often than their excluded folders
> and then it is convenient to have a small options window

really? I don't think so. In most cases this too will be a one time configuration


> which btw reminds me that I'd like to receive some more stylesheets!)

we will work on that topic ;)

thanks

Jean

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040803 Firefox/0.9.3
[15] Submitted by: MrDaBomb on Thursday 16th September 2004 at 10:39 -0400

When will a version for Firefox 1.0PR+ be released? This extension along with the google toolbar are essential imo. Thanks!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10
[16] Submitted by: Jeroen on Thursday 16th September 2004 at 16:30 -0400

OK Jean, you convinced me. See Todo for details. MrDaBomb, I wouldn't want people to wait too long for an essential :-) extension. 1.1.2 is available and compatible with Firefox 1.0.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5
[17] Submitted by: JK on Saturday 18th September 2004 at 04:27 -0400

I'm using latest FF version, but the options button for this extension is N/A for me :(
What is wrong?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10 StumbleUpon/1.998
[18] Submitted by: JK on Saturday 18th September 2004 at 04:31 -0400

P.S.
And the button that sapose to be in toolbar also doesn't appear.

*This is a fresh install of the ext.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10 StumbleUpon/1.998
[19] Submitted by: Jeroen on Saturday 18th September 2004 at 05:30 -0400

JK, options are only available through a link at the bottom of the page. The toolbar button should appear on the right in FF, but might be off screen.

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
[20] Submitted by: michal on Saturday 18th September 2004 at 06:03 -0400

does it work in ie? or going to work in ie? if yes, when and how?

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
[21] Submitted by: Jeroen on Saturday 18th September 2004 at 06:18 -0400

michal, it doesn´t work in ie. The best you can do if you want (have?!) to use ie, is to create the bmh page in mozilla and save it (File->Save as). Then you can open the saved page in ie, but it won´t change if you change your favourites, and you won´t be able to set preferences.

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
[22] Submitted by: JK on Saturday 18th September 2004 at 06:50 -0400

Is there a way, through the CSS, to include the bookmarks' icons? If there isn't one, could it please be added as a feature in future versions?

Thanx.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10 StumbleUpon/1.998
[23] Submitted by: Jeroen on Saturday 18th September 2004 at 08:10 -0400

JK,
I hadn´t thought of it yet (I don´t have any bookmarks with icons). Currently there´s no way to display the icons, but I´ll make it possible in the next version.

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
[24] Submitted by: SanderG on Tuesday 21st September 2004 at 10:19 -0400

Bug?:
Even though I set the start page correctly, the bookmarks page does not load on browser startup. I need to press Enter in the Location bar, or click Home in order to get the page displayed.

Request:
Add 'open in tabs' to a folder (group of bookmarks).

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10
[25] Submitted by: Jeroen on Tuesday 21st September 2004 at 15:25 -0400

Sander,
Probably it has to do with other extensions you have installed. Can you send me a list of your extensions? As for the 'open in tabs', Linky is an extension that, I think, does what you want:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5
[26] Submitted by: SanderG on Wednesday 22nd September 2004 at 04:34 -0400

Yes, I have a lot of extensions, but currently am not able to reproduce the problem with the "bookmarks page not opening" anymore - it works now.
For the Open in tabs: the headings in the bookmark page (which are in fact bookmark folders) are currently not clickable - and if they were, they should do something fancy. I am not sure how Linky could fit in this picture?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040921 Firefox/0.10
[27] Submitted by: SanderG on Wednesday 22nd September 2004 at 07:44 -0400

Edit: it still fails to load sometimes on browser startup. Installed extensions: Adblock, Download sort, Download Statusbar, Live HTTP Headers, BugMeNot, User Agent Switcher, FoxyTunes, Copy Plain Text, FLST, IEview, TargetAlert, Allow Right-Click, SmartSearch.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040921 Firefox/0.10
[28] Submitted by: Jeroen on Wednesday 22nd September 2004 at 15:59 -0400

Sander,
I've seen the same problem with some of my early experiments, but only on windows, not on linux. Anyhow, finding the cause will probably be virtually impossible for me. However, I'll recreate the problem I had on windows and try to find a way around it.Progress will be announced on the todo page (or you can subscribe to the mailing list). One more thing: when this happens, can you check the Tools->Javascript Console for error messages?

I think your idea to make links of the headings that open the folder's bookmarks in new tabs (or windows, I'll probably add that as an option) is great!!
It will be implemented in the next version.

For the sake of completeness: Linky allows you to select links like you select text and let them be opened in new tabs. This way you can open all links in a folder.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5
[29] Submitted by: SanderG on Friday 24th September 2004 at 04:32 -0400

Added a livemark today. The livemark itself is shown as bookmark but its contents (shown as folder in the Bookmarks manager) is not expanded. Can you add that? ;-)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040921 Firefox/0.10
[30] Submitted by: Heidi on Sunday 26th September 2004 at 16:46 -0400

I really loved this extension but it doesn't work anymore... I had to create a new profile because of some troubles with another extension (sessionsaver) and now, when I click on options at the bottom of the page created by bookmarksHome, Firefox crashes. Then I created a new profile again, with only bookmarkshome installed, so no other extensions, and I had the same problem so I don't think it's a matter of conflicting extensions.

Then I got an idea and I opened my old Firefox (0.9.3) (the very first time I installed BMHome was also in this version) and installed the extension again from there, and there it worked! So hoped it would work again as well in Firefox PR 1.0 but there it still crashes...

I use Firefox PR 1.0 on Mac OS X

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10
[31] Submitted by: Heidi on Sunday 26th September 2004 at 19:12 -0400

Update: removed all Firefox stuff (programme, profiles) and installed it all over, but FF still crashes when I try to open "options" of BMHome... :-(

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10
[32] Submitted by: Jeroen on Monday 27th September 2004 at 16:02 -0400

Sander,
I'll work on the livemarks.
Heidi,
I'm sorry for all the problems you have with bmh. bmh seems to work fine in ff 1.0 on windows and linux (at least the options window). Unfortunately I don't have a mac, so there's not much I can do. However, later this week, a new version of bmh will be available with a completely rewritten options window. So, hopefully the new version will work. I'd like to hear about it.
Jeroen

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040914 Firefox/0.10
[33] Submitted by: Jem on Wednesday 29th September 2004 at 14:19 -0400

No BMHome button that I can see (FF 1.0)

Also, doesn't handle live feeds which it could...Where a bookmark is a live feed indicate on the home page with RSS (or an icon, or something) and have that link open a new XML page with the live links listed (as per a normal RSS/XML page

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10
[34] Submitted by: Jeroen on Wednesday 29th September 2004 at 16:04 -0400

Jem,
I removed the BMHome button, because personal toolbar buttons are more flexible and, in mozilla, if you set bmh as your homepage, you'll have 2 buttons (Home and BMHome) referring to the same page. I'm working on the livemarks. I thought the best way to handle them, was just to display them as a folder (like in the bmmanager).

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5
[35] Submitted by: Stacman on Wednesday 29th September 2004 at 18:14 -0400

I like the extension, but am going back to v1.1.1. It seems without the BMHome button the only way to use this new extension is to make it the start page, which I don't want to do. I preferred using my existing portal, and having the button option to switch to your creation.

Thanks for the extensions...

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10
[36] Submitted by: Jeroen on Thursday 30th September 2004 at 06:51 -0400

Stacman,
I wrote Personal Toolbar buttons in my response to Jem, but what I meant was Personal Toolbar FOLDER buttons, or, in ff, the Bookmarks Toolbar Folder. That is, you should just bookmark bmh into this folder and a button will appear on your personal toolbar.

Ironically however, mozilla/ff does not bookmark the right url, but something like

wyciwyg://0/chrome://bookmarkshome/content/bookmarksHome.html

You have to remove the wyciwyg://0/ part (in the bookmark's properties) to make the bookmark (button) work. If I had known this in time, I wouldn't have removed the BMHome button of course...

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5
[37] Submitted by: Stacman on Thursday 30th September 2004 at 12:08 -0400

Thanks, I'll try working with it before giving up. It actually would be more convenient as part of the toolbar and on the left side.

Either way it's nice to have it like this. Previous to Firefox, I had made my own html page of my bookmarks and maintained a link to my server in the toolbar.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10
[38] Submitted by: fuzzyjone on Thursday 30th September 2004 at 16:38 -0400

I have removed the first part of the URL until CHROME..., but it does not work. The URL is added tho the existing URL and a error message appears.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10
[39] Submitted by: Jeroen on Thursday 30th September 2004 at 17:40 -0400

fuzzyjone,
I cannot in any way reproduce your problem or imagine what causes it. Right now I'm also using ff 1.0 on win 98, just like you and for me the procedure worked just fine. You do manage to load the page? And have you used previous versions of bmh?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10
[40] Submitted by: fuzzyjone on Friday 1st October 2004 at 11:06 -0400

thanks for answering,

i follow the installation instructions untill bookmarking in the Bookmarks Toolbar Folder. I can't understand the following instruction :
"Right click the following link and choose Save Link Target As if you want to download BookmarksHome."

There is no following link.

I have not used a previous Version.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10
[41] Submitted by: Jeroen on Friday 1st October 2004 at 14:45 -0400

fuzzyjone,
Just click with your left mouse button on the link 'Install BookmarksHome 1.2.1'; downloading is only of interest for programmers.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5
[42] Submitted by: dimiter on Friday 1st October 2004 at 16:51 -0400

Here is my personal stylesheet. Please send your comments at: dimiter[at]blue[dash]edge[dot]bg

body { background-color: silver; }
.table-main {
background-color: white;
-moz-border-radius: 30px;
}

.table-column { -moz-border-radius: 18px 0px; border: 1px solid white; }
.table-column:hover { border-color: gray; }

.table-folder, .table-folder * { border: 0px; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; }
.table-folder th { background-color: gray; -moz-border-radius: 15px 0px; }
.table-folder:hover th { background-color: navy; }

.table-folder td { padding: 0px 10px 3px 10px; }
.table-folder td:hover { -moz-border-radius: 10px; }

a {
font: 9px verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;
text-decoration: none;
white-space: nowrap;
padding: 0px;
margin: 0px;
}
.table-folder th a { font-weight: bold; color: white; }
.table-folder th a:hover { font-weight: bold; color: cyan; }
.table-folder td:hover { background-color: navy; }
.table-folder td:hover a { color: white; }

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040930 Firefox/0.10
[43] Submitted by: Heidi on Friday 1st October 2004 at 19:12 -0400

After almost a week without Internet it was a pleasure to discover that BMHome works again on Mac OS X! Yes, I like the new version, especially the appearance of the options window has improved a lot (now it has what maccers call the "native look"). And also the "(un)check subfolders" works fine now.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10
[44] Submitted by: Jeroen on Saturday 2nd October 2004 at 03:09 -0400

Dimitri,
Thanks for your great and very original stylesheet!!! I´ll display it asap on the styles page.
Heidi,
Glad to hear bmh works now. Think I´ll just remove the scary ´crashes on macintosh´ sentence from the Todo page :-).

To others I´d like to say: Don't let yourself be discouraged from sending in your stylesheet if you don´t know how to make one as advanced as dimitri's; finding good colors is an art in itself, so someone else´s stylesheet with only the colors changed is welcome too!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041001 Firefox/0.10.1
[45] Submitted by: dimiter on Saturday 2nd October 2004 at 04:02 -0400

And here is the last version of my stylesheet. It's updated to use the desktop colores as defined by the OS and overall looks smoother.

#searchForm {display: none; }
body > div > a { position: absolute; top: 0px; right: 0px; padding-top: 8px ! important; padding-right: 40px ! important; }

body { background-color: Background ; }
.table-main { background-color: Window; -moz-border-radius: 30px 0px 30px; }

.table-column { -moz-border-radius: 8px 8px 0px 0px; border: 1px solid Window; }
.table-column:hover { border-color: InactiveBorder ; }
.table-folder, .table-folder * {
border: 0px; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;
border-spacing: 0px; border-collapse: collapse;
width: *;
}
.table-folder { margin-bottom: 1em }

a {
font: 9px verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;
text-decoration: none;
white-space: nowrap;
padding: 1px 10px ! important;
display: block;
}

br { display: runin; }
.table-folder th a {
-moz-border-radius: 8px 8px 0px 0px;
margin-bottom: 3px;
background-color: InactiveBorder ;
}
.table-folder:hover th a { background-color: Highlight ; }

.table-folder th a { font-weight: bold; color: HighlightText ; }
.table-folder th a:hover { text-decoration: underline; }
.table-folder td a { -moz-border-radius: 3px; }
.table-folder td a:hover { background-color: Highlight; color: HighlightText; }

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040930 Firefox/0.10
[46] Submitted by: dimiter on Saturday 2nd October 2004 at 04:21 -0400

What I would like to see in next version is a posibility to upload the generated page to some remote FTP/SFTP location. The ftp url should be configured in the options dialog with possibility to specify user, pass or both.

If the FTP location is present in the options, the local page should contain one more link, next to options, which says "update remote". The page placed at the remote location should not contain this link.

If user name or pass is not specified, the plugin should pop a modal dialog prompting the user to enter them. If only one is specified, it should be prefilled.

I'm pondering the option to implement it myself, but so far I don't have any experience with moz plugins and ya know.. I'm lazy :-)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040930 Firefox/0.10
[47] Submitted by: Jeroen on Saturday 2nd October 2004 at 04:36 -0400

Dimiter (sorry for previously misspelling your name),
I think both stylesheets have their merits. In your last stylesheet however, the options link has moved to the top right of the page and is hardly visible because of the background color. Probably you want to change that. Also, you can simply hide the searchform by selecting 'None' as your default engine.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041001 Firefox/0.10.1
[48] Submitted by: dimiter on Saturday 2nd October 2004 at 04:56 -0400

Jeroen,

Thanks for the tip about the search box.

The options link is meant to be in the top-right corner of the bookmarks table, thus the background should be white. I put it there because I thought it's a non-intrusive, still easy to spot place (upper right corner.) I have to think about some other solution.

Another issue is that I want to make the folder titles to take less space. My current folder structure is up to 4 levels deep and the headers get largish. I tried to specify that the BR elements should display inline, and to add '/' as generated content before each BR but so far, can't make it work.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040930 Firefox/0.10
[49] Submitted by: Jeroen on Saturday 2nd October 2004 at 04:59 -0400

Dimiter,
I think it's a good idea to have some sort of ftp functionality. There are a number of projects that allow you to transfer your bookmarks (which I think is a better idea than transferring the page, since you could also use the options window then). I'll try to find out more and will also think about the best way to integrate this functionality with bmh. I´d be happy to tell you all about mozilla extensions (well..at least about this one) and work together with you, so if you think you can get over your lazyness, just send me an email.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041001 Firefox/0.10.1
[50] Submitted by: Josh on Saturday 2nd October 2004 at 12:11 -0400

Awesome idea! I just love it.. I use this as my second home page. ( = two tabs = great!)

I would like to see more themes, I tried all of the ones posted here, and I like dimiter's second one A LOT, and I am probably going to make on to match with my website soon...


Josh

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[51] Submitted by: Josh on Saturday 2nd October 2004 at 12:14 -0400

er, it discarded all the links, which where my example for the home page.. hmmm.

Basicly its just page1|page2 and firefox treats it as two sites, which open in two tabs.. which is really handy.

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[52] Submitted by: Asbjørn on Saturday 2nd October 2004 at 13:35 -0400

The new version (1.2.1) has a rather irritating bug. When you go to a page from the startpage and then click the Back button Firefox chrshes. This didn't occur with version 1.1.

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[53] Submitted by: Josh on Saturday 2nd October 2004 at 13:50 -0400

Yeah, I noticed this too :( Its very annoying, the only way I have found to get aroung this is to not go back, i.e. open links in a new tab.


Josh

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[54] Submitted by: Jeroen on Saturday 2nd October 2004 at 15:21 -0400

Asbjorn and Josh,
This is indeed a very bad bug. I'll quickly do something about it.

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[55] Submitted by: Heidi on Saturday 2nd October 2004 at 16:24 -0400

I also experienced that back-button-bug. Two other small bugs: FF crashes when I try to duplicate the BMHome page (I use tab clicking options, I don't know if the same thing happens with tab browser preferences?) and if the BMHome page is active, it's not possible anymore to open a new tab with "command T" (opening with "New Tab" from the menu and opening with double clicking on the tabbar (again with tab clicking options) is still possible)

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[56] Submitted by: Jeroen on Sunday 3rd October 2004 at 16:27 -0400

Heidi,
The wyciwyg bug (see todo) was caused by my fix of the bmh-not-always-loading-properly-on-windows bug. The back-button bug and the duplicate-bmh-tab bug are caused by my fix of the wyciwyg bug (sigh...). I could not reproduce the command(ctrl?)-T bug. The bmh-not-always-loading-properly-on-windows bug only occurs at startup and is caused by an unfinished initialization of the bookmarks when bmh tries to read them. When this happens, one just needs to reload bmh. I've submitted a bug (in bugzilla) describing the wyciwyg, back-button and bmh-not-always-loading-properly-on-windows bug, so perhaps I'll get some help of mozilla developers on this. For now, I've just removed the cures that were worse than the disease (v2.1.2.).

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[57] Submitted by: Josh on Monday 4th October 2004 at 08:52 -0400

erm, its a real pain to have to reload the page to see the boomarks... is there any way you can do some sort of timer in javascript, like wait 2 seconds, then load the page, to make sure the bookmarks file was completely initalized? i.e. make a meta refresh that will refresh to the real url in two seconds.

I am going to download the xpi file and try it out, if you don't mind. I will tell you if I come up with anything :P


Josh

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[58] Submitted by: Josh on Monday 4th October 2004 at 09:10 -0400

FOO YA! It worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can you email me at Josh@ki4bbo.org, and I will send you the xpi file with what I did.

Basicly I just created a new file, index.html, that I set as my homepage. That just contains a meta refresh tag, that refreshs to bookmarkshome.html in 2 seconds. It probably could be one, I am going to play around with that a bit.

Josh

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[59] Submitted by: Josh on Monday 4th October 2004 at 09:18 -0400

OK, just a meta refresh 0 works... so its really fast. Here is the code for index.html, just reploace the brackets with their proper counterparts (trying to get around the HTML filter :P)

[!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"
[html]
[head]
[meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"]
[meta http-equiv="Refresh" content="2; URL=bookmarksHome.html"]
[title>Bookmarks Home :: Please Wait[/title]
[/head]
[body]
[/body]
[/html]


And just tell them to set the home page to index.html instead of bookmarkshome.html, and it all works great!

Josh

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[60] Submitted by: Josh on Monday 4th October 2004 at 09:20 -0400

carp, this stupid URL filter buthcered my doc type :P

Oh well, you get the picture, email me if you have any quesions 8)

Josh

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[61] Submitted by: Lithian on Monday 4th October 2004 at 09:37 -0400

Thanks for your extension. I have some little suggestion:

- At bottom near "options" label add a link to the bookmark manager
- At bottom add a link to bookmarkshome project page
- Fix the layout of the folders page in the options: strange effect if you try to resize it
- Add a easy mode to change the style (can be sufficient only change the font size and the page colors)

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[62] Submitted by: Jeroen on Monday 4th October 2004 at 16:03 -0400

Great Josh!! Good thinking! I'll put it in asap

Lithian,
I appreciate your suggestions, but
- ALT-b,m or opening the bookmarks manager with the mouse is easy enough; there is really no need for a link
- You can add this page to your bookmarks. That will display a link on the bmh page.
- I suppose you mean that the folders panel doesn't grow along with the window? I'll see what I can do about that. Or do you mean something else?
- I'll think about it. It won't get priority, but if you don't manage to change the font size or the colors in a stylesheet you like, you can me send me an email.

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[63] Submitted by: Josh on Monday 4th October 2004 at 18:53 -0400

Yea! I actually helped out on an extension :) Not bad for a 13 year old eh? (It was my b-day yesterday)

Always glad to help out :) Its working fine over here, because normally Firefox starts loading the page before you even see the page, this way Firefox loads the index.html page instead of bmh.html and only redirects to bmh once its completely loaded, thus making sure the bookmarks file is completely initilzed.

I sent you the xpi file, although you probably don't need it, since I told you all about it already lol

Josh

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[64] Submitted by: Josh on Monday 4th October 2004 at 18:55 -0400

Oh, I see you already put the new version up -- very good! Works great :D

Josh

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[65] Submitted by: Josh on Monday 4th October 2004 at 18:57 -0400

er, I spoke to soon, the link is a 404 :P

http://www.ki4bbo.org
[66] Submitted by: Josh on Tuesday 5th October 2004 at 07:33 -0400

OK.. works fine now :)

Thanks again for this great extension!

[67] Submitted by: Josh on Tuesday 5th October 2004 at 07:38 -0400

Um, I just found an exploit in the mozdeev notes thingy... I can use HTML and URLs in my useragent! Hmm, who should I talk to about this? I mean if I wanted to I could use a script tag to do all sorts of mean things.

See a non-harmful example bellow.

[68] Submitted by: Jeroen on Tuesday 5th October 2004 at 14:46 -0400

Hi Josh, think I found your homepage :-). I'll send you an email.

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[69] Submitted by: Josh on Tuesday 5th October 2004 at 15:29 -0400

Yep, you found my homepage lol

Although I think you probably could have guessed by the domain of my email.

Did you get my email with my idea of 1.2.4?


Josh

[70] Submitted by: Josh on Tuesday 5th October 2004 at 19:12 -0400

New stylesheet,

/*
*
*Stylesheet by Josh Powell - KI4BBO.org
* 1337 Hacker 1.2
*
*/

body{background-color:#000000;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;}
input,textarea,select,option{background-color:#000000;border-top:1px solid #111111;border-bottom:1px solid #111111;border-left:1px solid #111111;border-right:1px solid #111111;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:80%;color:#FFFFFF;}
.table-main{background-color:#333333;}
.table-folder{border-top:1px solid #2D2D2D;border-right:1px solid #2D2D2D;border-bottom:1px solid #2D2D2D;border-left:1px solid #2D2D2D;background-color:#171717;}
.table-folder th{border-top:1px solid #2D2D2D;border-right:1px solid #2D2D2D;border-bottom:1px solid #2D2D2D;border-left:1px solid #2D2D2D;background-color:#2D2D2D;}
a{color:#00CC33;text-decoration:none;font-size:0.8em;white-space:nowrap;}
.table-folder th a{color:#00FF00;}
a:hover{text-decoration:none;color:#00FF33;}
.table-folder th a:hover{color:#00FF00;}


Its a dark, 'hackerish' theme :) Use it if you want...

Josh

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[71] Submitted by: Josh on Tuesday 5th October 2004 at 21:22 -0400

OK, here are all my main wishes, most of which I could prolly do myself if I would just learn XUL :P

1. Create check box to show/hide the search box, instead of none in the drop down -- the "none" is a little confusing.

2. Create a way for users to save stylesheets, and then chose them from a drop downn listbox, this way they don't have to copy and paste them every time they want a change.

3. Tab in the options dialog for users to add their own search enginges (maybe)

4. Fix it so the Options button in the extension manager actually opens the options dialog (instead of being grayed out)

5. Let users specify the seperator bewtween folder levels, instead of the deafult line break

6. The footer should be Options | BMH Homepage (with the latter being linked to the home page of course)

7. As already on the todo list, Ftp upload would be awesome

I know those would be hard, but if implimented this ectension would be THE best extension for firefox..

I will get to work on them and see what I can do, can anyone recomend some good XUL tuts?

Josh

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[72] Submitted by: Tal on Wednesday 6th October 2004 at 06:00 -0400

This is frickin' awesome. I finally have a use for that until-now stupid home button.

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[73] Submitted by: Jeroen on Wednesday 6th October 2004 at 06:16 -0400

Josh, thanks for your magnificent stylesheet. I think all your ideas for improvement are good. We'll discuss detail s by email.

Tad, thanks for the compliment (and for teaching me some new english :-))

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[74] Submitted by: Josh on Wednesday 6th October 2004 at 07:46 -0400

Eh, I don't know about magnificent, but it matches my mood :P

Also, I noticed that you don't have the (1) options dialog (2)the homepage set in install.rdf, you also don't have an icon for the extension, I have been hacking around, and I set the options dialog, and I set the homepage, and I gave it an icon (just the home icon in the qute theme) and I added a link back to the BMH page in the footer of the generated page.

I mean when I first installed the extension, I had to use google to find the home page, since it wasn't listed in the rdf files, nor on the generated page.

I'll send you my xpi if you like..

Josh

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[75] Submitted by: Flemseras on Thursday 7th October 2004 at 03:53 -0400

Hi...

Great extension!
Is there anyway to delete links directly on the homepage, instead of opening bookmarks manager ? Perhaps a "delete" option in the context menu ?

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[76] Submitted by: Jeroen on Thursday 7th October 2004 at 09:20 -0400

Flemseras,
I think there are plenty of extensions that add something to the context menu, so I'd rather not do that for something so easily done otherwise.

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[77] Submitted by: JK on Thursday 7th October 2004 at 12:52 -0400

Hi
2 things:
Suggestion - Improve the printing compatibility.
Question - To where should I send/post a style that I want to share?

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[78] Submitted by: JK on Thursday 7th October 2004 at 12:57 -0400

And another suggestion: Organize this feedback page, it's getting too long. (try: devide to pages / show posts made since... / create a forum / etc.)

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[79] Submitted by: Jeroen on Thursday 7th October 2004 at 14:48 -0400

JK,
I'm not sure what you mean with printing compatibility. I haven't tried it yet (and, to be honest, bmh is one of the last things I'd want to print) but it should just print fine. You're right about the length of this page; I'll do something about it. I'm looking forward to your stylesheet. You can simply post it here, or send it to me by email if you want:
jagrboom@zonnet.nl

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[80] Submitted by: Josh on Thursday 7th October 2004 at 16:17 -0400

Hehe, can you edit/delete comments? If so, please merge all of my previous comments into one if you wish, I should have done that in the first place... and better yet, how about I write a php script (if this server supports PHP) for people to submit their stylesheets, and it will email them to you, or automaticly post them to the styles page. (The stylesheets take up a lot of room here!)

I too don't see why you would want to print BMH, you would have a whole page of link titles, and no idea at all where they would lead to!

Jeroen, I am not sure if mozdev.org supports php/mysql, and if not, I would be happy to host a phpBB forum for BMH on my site if you wish.. that may be a little better than 24 pages of user notes! (Thats how long it would be if printed!)

Also, as you stated, I don't see the usefulness in deleting bookmarks via the context menu, in addition to the fact that modifying files would be a bit hard to do in javascript, and it would increase the risk of bookmarks.html being corrupted.
Josh

[81] Submitted by: JK on Friday 8th October 2004 at 08:59 -0400

It's not that important, but - I've set BMH as my HP and noticed that when starting FF, it doesn't show it. It shows its address in the location bar, but with a blank page displayed.

Take care of it only if it's not too complicated. It will be a shame to waste time on it :-)

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[82] Submitted by: Josh on Friday 8th October 2004 at 09:35 -0400

JK, to fix that, set the startup page to chrome://bookmarkshome/content/startup.html its a little workaround I came up with, and that simply redirects to the real page once the bookmarks are fully loaded.

Hope the helps,
Josh

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[83] Submitted by: JK on Friday 8th October 2004 at 15:02 -0400

It did, thanx! :-)

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[84] Submitted by: Josh on Friday 8th October 2004 at 16:01 -0400

You are welcome! :) If you care to, (probably wont) you can read the whole thread, and see where this was mentioned, and I proposed a work around to fix it, and sure enough he liked it :)

Glad it works,
Josh

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